David Miscavige, a government plant?

Posted: August 28, 2013 in Uncategorized
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wasn’t there some text file that had him as a CIA agent at one point from Daniel Brandt’s organization? TBH I have no idea how credible this was and I’m leaning towards “not very, but more than aliens” but I dunno, you lot know more about this methinks

I’ve never heard this and honestly I couldn’t tell you yes or now. I do however know the FBI is guilty of losing rogue agents to the mafia, cartels and gangs in the past. These people get to a high rank after years of undercover work and let the power get to their head. Perhaps this explains Miscavige? I have no idea.

I do know that Miscavige’s family are documented, on record and are all former or current Scientologists. So while I find the idea appealing, I also find it hard to believe.

There are theories out there that Scientology as a whole is a US Government program to study social interaction gone awry and rogue.

I don’t believe it because the truth is often boring. Also, it’s best to stick to Occam’s Razor until there are less assumptions and more facts to go on.

  1. Susie says:

    Hi Derek,
    I’m not sure where to submit my questions, so I hope this is okay.
    I never knew anything about Scientology (except that it was supposed to be a scary organization) until this past July. The Leah Remini story got me curious and I’ve been reading blogs ever since (Tony O, Marty, Mike Rinder, etc). I have so many questions about practical things that I haven’t found explained anywhere. Would you mind explaining some of it? If it’s okay, here are some of my questions:

    1. What’s the reactive mind? (And why is it supposed to be a bad thing?)

    2. I’ve read so many conflicting things about the kinds of powers people are supposed to have when they get to OT8. And yet, there is this idea that an OT8 “doesn’t do parlor tricks” to show that they have special powers. Sooo…what is “cause over life” supposed to really mean, and have any OT8s ever demonstrated these powers to anyone?
    Doesn’t the average Scientology member ever ask about these powers—or ask to see them in action?
    This is the part I just can’t understand, because it seems to me that if Scientology promises people superpowers, how come the regular members aren’t demanding to see proof of it?
    And if Scientology is interested in getting people to join up, why don’t they do a show like David Blaine or Criss Angel and demonstrate OT powers?? It would be the biggest thing to happen in, like, ever! Or is showing off powers supposed to be a bad thing?

    3. I read that Scientologists are supposed to “word clear” texts to avoid “misunderstood words.” Does this mean you have to look up *literally* every single word in an LRH text? (Even a word like “and” or “the”??)
    And what dictionary do you use for this—is it a regular dictionary like “wogs” use?
    And what happens when a word has multiple meanings—just slightly different shades of meaning, as so many words do. How can you “clear” it then when you can’t ask the author which specific meaning he meant?
    And isn’t it annoying to read this way??

    4. I’ve been thinking about how a protester has only, like, 1 second for their sign to catch a Sea Org member’s eye. Is there a specific type of message that is more likely to get a Sea Org person to start questioning things?

    5. I’ve heard that a goal of Scientology is to stop the world from being so insane. Do people in Scientology really see the world as being like a hell? I mean, yes, there are horrific problems in the world, but I also see incredible goodness and beauty and amazingness in the world. Do Scientologists not see those things or acknowledge them?

    Thank you very much for taking the time to read all this and any answers you may have.

    I read your personal story, btw, and it has really given me so much insight and compassion for what you and other Sea Org members have had to go through. It is so deeply shocking, and I wish I knew how I could help bring this horrible organization to an end. I wish you all the best, and most especially I hope that your family reconnects with you soon.

    Thanks again,

  2. Kathleen says:

    I’ve read various books about Scientology and LRH and how Ron was involved in practicing black magick with Aleister Crowley, just look up his name on wikipedia.org.

  3. Kathleen says:

    Hi there.

    I just finished reading a book about cults in general and more specifically, the recovery process from leaving a cult. I thought it would be helpful to pass on the title of the book and the author.
    “Captive Hearts, Captive Minds: Freedom and Recovery from Cults and Abusive Relationships.” By: Madeleine Landau Tobias and Janja Lalich. Published in 1994 by Hunter House, Inc. Part Two of the book seems to be quite useful in your case. Part Three of the book has a lot of personal stories from ex-cult members from various cults.
    From what I have read on a forum somewhere, I don’t quite remember which one it was. I remember you writing about your own story and your own experiences, and from reading the book it seems you’re on the right path for your own recovery process. Keep it up with making lists and to-do lists, since that is the most helpful thing to do for everyday life. You also mentioned how you struggle to focus with your reading as well as critical thinking being an issue, one suggestion in this book is to start reading a few newspaper stories each day.
    Another book that I found that was insightful to me, I wanted to mention here. The author, Margaret Thaler Singer is quite knowledgeable about cults and spent a lot of her time with research about cults as well as being a “cult consultant” or “exit counselor” for ex-cult members. This book was published in 1995, and she mentioned that she had about 30-40 years of her own research being done on cult behavior and ex-cult members, so I’m not sure if she is still in the field. Maybe she is retired now? I’m not sure. Anyway, the book is: “Cults in our Midst: The Hidden Menace in our Everyday Lives.” By: Margaret Thaler Singer with Janja Lalich. Published in 1995 by Jossey-Bass Publishers.
    From my own experience in finding books in public libraries, the more recently published the book is (e.g., 2012-2013), the harder it is to find an available copy in the library since someone else is reading it or none of the libraries in the library system bought a copy of the book yet since the book is so newly published. Since these books are older, there’s a better chance that you can find a copy of these books in the libraries.
    With the book, “Captive Hearts, Captive Minds.” I found this book is extremely helpful to an ex-cult survivor. With the book, “Cults in our Midst.” I found that the author’s thoughts that she put into writing really expanded my concepts of what exactly defines a cult and the various cults that are out there and the fact that there are so many different kinds of cults nowadays that it blew my mind away.
    I also wanted to warn you about this book talking about Scientology, and a portion of the book that really pissed me off. The book is called, “Inside Scientology: The Story of America’s Most Secretive Religion.” By: Janet Reitman, Published in 2011 by: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. The epilogue of the book, especially the last two pages of the book is so explicitly “pro-Scientology” that I couldn’t stand reading it, just so you know. If you read this book, just skip the epilogue, it’s not worth reading.

    • dbloch7986 says:

      I’ve actually read the book “Inside Scientology”. It was actually an incredible tool for someone who was on the fence like I was. It gives amazingly objective insight into the religion of Scientology.

      In all honesty, I’ve found non-cult related books about general psychology to give me more insight into what happened to me than cult-specific books. One of my favorites is “Get Anyone to Do Anything”. That was a key component to releasing me from my mental prison.


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